In John 21, there is a mysterious passage where Jesus makes an intriguing statement about the length of John’s life. The passage has captured the imaginations of believers for over a millennium and has caused people to wonder…. Is John Still Alive Today?
I was first introduced to this passage many years ago in my sixth-grade Bible class. Our teacher had been guiding us through the Gospel when we ran across the infamous passage.
“If I want him (John) to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.”
John 21:22
This statement sparked my class’s middle school imagination. “Does this mean John is still alive today!?:o!?” we asked with eyes full of wonder. As if he had anticipated the question, without missing a beat, our teacher replied, “It’s possible….”
Needless to say, we were mystified, and for about a week, we debated the possibility. However, my friend group eventually determined that our teacher (a known prankster) was probably messing with us.
Although the notion that John could still be alive today seems ridiculous to most, a surprisingly large number of people entertain the idea. Some religious organizations have even made it an official part of their doctrinal teaching.
The Context of John 21
This whole business of people thinking John may still be walking the earth today can all be traced back to Jesus’s conversation with Peter in John 21:19-23.
Contextually, Jesus has just returned from the dead and is wrapping up a nice but tense breakfast with his disciples. As they begin getting ready to move on, Jesus casually informs Peter that he will die a martyr’s death. This understandably takes Peter aback. He then turns to John, who was known as the disciple Jesus loved and asks for information about his death. Jesus, understanding the disgruntled disciple had missed the point, answered with a question.
“If I desire that he stay until I come, what is that to you? You follow me.” This saying therefore went out among the brothers, that this disciple wouldn’t die. Yet Jesus didn’t say to him that he wouldn’t die, but, “If I desire that he stay until I come, what is that to you?”
John 21:22-23
The Three Interpretations of John 21:22
The language in John 21:22 is relatively flexible. In other words, it could be a literal prediction of the future or an illustration designed to make a point. Due to this ambiguity, there are several interpretations of Christ’s words.
1. Hyperbolic Language
The first view suggests that John 21:22 should not be read literally but as an illustrative lesson. According to this reading, Jesus is using hyperbolic or exaggerated language to help Peter understand what discipleship means.
Although there are some linguistic reasons to read the text in this way, the interpretation is primarily founded on history. According to church tradition, John died on the island of Patmos around 98 AD. Although Jesus didn’t know when the world would end (Mark 13:32), he did know how his disciples would die. Consequently, proponents of this view argue that John’s historical death prevents a literal interpretation of Jesus’s words from making any sense.
Some have also argued that Jesus would have used more explicit language if he had intended to make a claim about future events. For example, the phrase “Why does it matter to you that he will stay until I come?” is less ambiguous.
From what I can tell, most Christians hold the Hyperbolic view, and it seems to be the default position of most if not all, denominations.
2. The “Full Preterist” Perspective
The “full preterist” view is interesting because it suggests that John 21:22 should be read literally while upholding the historical death of the Apostle John.
Preterism is an interpretative lens used to study the book of Revelation. Full preterists believe that every prophecy in the book was fulfilled within the first two centuries. Consequently, they think Christ’s return happened during the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Because they believe Jesus has already returned, they argue that a literal interpretation of Jesus’ words makes the most sense. Although this view is the least popular, it strikes an interesting middle ground between literal and non-literal interpretations that is worth noting.
3. The Literal Perspective
The final interpretation also takes Jesus’s words very literally. However, Proponents of this view believe that Jesus’s second coming will be at the end of time. Consequently, they propose John has been walking the earth for the last 2000 years.
The Mormon Church
The most prominent group that promotes this view is undoubtedly the Mormon church. In Mormonism, the modern-day physical existence of John is not just a possibility; it’s a fact.
Aside from the Book of Mormon, the LDS church has another collection of authoritative writings called the Doctrines and Covenants. According to BYU (Brigham Young University), these are,
“a compilation of revelations, most of which were received by the Prophet Joseph Smith for the establishment and governance of the kingdom of God in the latter days. It is a standard work of the Church and functions as its open, ever-expanding, ecclesiastical Constitution.”
Section 7 of the Doctrines and Covenants says Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery asked God to tell them the truth behind John 21:22 through the Urim and Thummim. God then gave Smith a revelation where he revealed an extra-Biblical conversation Jesus allegedly had with John.
“The revelation is a translated version of the record made on parchment by John and hidden up by himself.
1 And the Lord said unto me: John, my beloved, what desirest thou? For if you shall ask what you will, it shall be granted unto you. 2 And I said unto him: Lord, give unto me power over death, that I may live and bring souls unto thee. 3 And the Lord said unto me: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, because thou desirest this thou shalt tarry until I come in my glory, and shalt prophesy before nations, kindreds, tongues and people.”
-D&C 128:20
Elder Bruce R. McConkie, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (1972-1985) of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said that John is both alive today and at work ministering.
“John was translated. He has been made ‘as flaming fire and a ministering angel,’ and ‘he shall minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation who dwell on the earth.’ To him the Lord said: ‘Thou shalt tarry until I come in my glory, and shalt prophesy before nations, kindreds, tongues and people.’ (D. & C. 7:1-5.) Except for his work among the lost tribes of Israel, the ‘nations, and tongues, and kings’ to whom he has and shall prophesy have not yet been made known.”
Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol.3, p.508
Is John Still Alive According to Christianity
As strange as it might sound, the belief that John never died has been floating around the pews since the founding of Christianity. John tells us that Jesus’s conversation with Peter sparked rumors and debates among the believers.
“the rumor spread among the believers that this disciple would not die.”
John 21:23
However, be that as it may, in Christianity, this rumor never evolved beyond friendly speculation. Today, there are no major denominations that claim the apostle John still lives. And as far as I can tell, there never have been.
Yet, like my middle school friend group, many people are intrigued by the possibility. Consequently, if you ask around the pews, you are bound to run into people like my middle school Bible teacher. Who will neither confirm nor deny the current existence of John the Apostle.
Final Thoughts
When I began researching John’s possible modern-day existence, I didn’t have a strong opinion or much knowledge about this topic. But after digging through all the material I could find, I have to say that I don’t think John is still alive today.
To me, the language of John 21 does not sound literal. On the contrary, it sounds more like an exaggerated statement designed to make a point. I also find the traditions about John’s death very compelling. During my research, I could not find credible stories about people running into John after the year 100 AD. The only example I could find came from Joseph Smith (D&C 128:20) and random people in internet comment sections. I understand some people view Smith as a reliable source. But for me, his claims are questionable at best. Consequently, I have no reason to doubt the traditional view.
Yet, be all that as it may, there is still a tiny piece of me that entertains the possibility. As fantastical as it might sound, keeping John alive for the last 2,000 years is not a difficult task for God. Moreover, the fact that Christians, to this day, read John 21:22 and walk away, considering the possibility, suggests the idea is not totally bananas. Because of this, a small part of me hopes it’s true.
Further Reading
- Doctrine and Covenants: Overview by Roy W. Doxey
- John the Revelator, Part 3—Did He ever Die? by The Biblical Apologist (A proposition worth checking out.)
Sources
- Hyperbolic – of, relating to, or marked by language that exaggerates or overstates the truth (Definition from Webster.) [1]
- Preterism [2] (Definition)
- Doctrines and Covenants Section 7 [3]
- Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol.3, p.508 (Bruce R. McConkie Quote)
Read Matthew 16:28 and you will get the answer.
hes alive with Enoch.
Here is how I perceive that passage:
If God needs some to not do the deep sleep after they die, well, they are probably part of his spiritual army. What kind of King wants a part time hero like today’s heroic soldiers? Don’t get me wrong, i think our military is very cleavor in their strategy in the material world I think our King is a 24-7 spirit with no need to sleep for himself, nor for his beloved spirit soldiers. The King returns because the created failed to fulfill the creators perfect plan. Why? Was it a density difference from heavens ethereal? Was it a biological plague causing spiritual shuffling between souls? There was a reason God made those he created “sleep.” There was and is a reason God kept some of his trusted awake and alert. I think it was out of the kindness of hope faith and charity that God considers in each thought he has, he let the soft souls sleep. GODS REASON: the dire situation did not need to BE WITNESSED BY ALL, ONLY THE STRONG SOLDIERS WHO COLLECT US, TO CARRY US HOME.
interesting thought. thanks for commenting. Your statement “God kept some of his trusted awake and alert” makes it sound like you believe others aside from John are still alive today. If this is accurate, which people from the past do you think could still be alive today?
I bet you never imagined Chris Reed would proclaim he was given direct revelation from God that John is actually still alive and living in a cave in Turkey waiting to explain Revelation to us.
Others could entail Enoch, Elijah, maybe King David, how about Yoshua… Maybe Moses. Those whom used, and do use, Gods free will to ply God’s works.